This episode, the gang talks gainers for the week. $Ebay, DWAC, TSLA, PLTR and SPY. Also PINS drill and NVDA moon.
00:27.24
ebox86
And welcome back everyone it has been a long summer and I want to say almost a a late spring too. So the last episode we've had outcast string podcast was the around this easter timeframe. And a lot's happened since then so I want to apologize. We've had a wonderful Summer. We've had a long hiatus of we've had a little bit of drama and on our discord. So and we've kind of pivoted around to different discords. But since then we're Back. We're back at it again and we're gonna be ah better than ever on the podcast target so we've got a great panel for you on the on the pod tonight and we're excited to be with you on the panel this evening. We've got pepo. Say hi say hi pepo say hi there you go. We've got dw we've got demi.
01:25.40
Matt
Oh hi, hi.
01:29.96
DW
Hey hey, hey hey.
01:34.74
demigod
That's me hello.
01:35.92
ebox86
Ah, you've got carlo.
01:38.47
Carlos
Or so a.
01:41.52
tim
Hello hello.
01:41.62
ebox86
We've got tim cool and as always be sure to check us out on Twitter at our ah handle at outcast trading. And we're having some technical difficulties I would normally say visit our website outcast trading that will be online shortly. But ah we will check our Twitter and we will have a update for that as we fix it so lots of talk about I think we can kind of maybe. Ah, you know, maybe do a bit of ah, a retrospect on the on how the summer went for everyone but ah I think you know this week has had a lot of activity. You know this week we had today specifically we had dwack which has been whack. We've had spy at all time Highs. We had the drill. Red October so a lot of exciting things. You know, ah that it's it's it's been really exciting to to be a to to be a participant of the market in who's made money I always like to start this who made money today and this week who's who's green.
02:50.51
demigod
I made 2 whole trades this week but I made like thirty percent on my account. So hockey bad.
02:51.51
Matt
I'm green.
02:57.12
ebox86
That that's great now. What? what did you play.
03:04.48
demigod
I've been I've been trying to play it real conservative. So just Tesla and what was my other was it was it Nvax is that what I played earlier.
03:15.61
ebox86
Oh yes and vax.
03:19.61
demigod
Ah, yeah, yeah I saw the potential for a bounce and you know I So I saw it moving up in Pre market and I took it and yeah, that went very well.
03:32.12
ebox86
I will say I played invax to on a whim you know, not or even knowing why they I actually so maybe someone can fill me in I don't know why they drilled so much right? like it was like 1 seventy 2 was it earnings I mean I know we're entering in a earnings territory earnings season now. But. They were like what 1 sixty 1 seventy 2 and they drilled pre-market excuse me it was like 1 eighteen and so I saw.
03:55.56
demigod
Yeah, no, so so I think what happened was and anyone can correct me if I'm wrong. Ah, they've they still don't have a vaccine after you know, however long, it's been um and. It's been. They haven't been doing too well and then all of a sudden I guess you know Somebodyd sold a whole lot and it was it was late at night. It was like 8 or nine pm and it drill in no volume. So you know that's that's prime bounce area because. You know, obviously if it drills on no volume and that's that's 1 person deciding to sell not everyone deciding the price to be lower.
04:36.84
ebox86
Right? right? right? Interesting Tim Tim did you.
04:40.36
tim
So I think there was an article about how like the manufacturing quality wasn't that great. Yeah.
04:47.84
demigod
Is that what it was um.
04:51.68
Carlos
That's the same article I read on Market watch I believe they said there were they were they were they reported manufacturing difficulties and that was the reasoning for the trial.
04:59.97
demigod
Yeah, no shit they don't have having manufacturing difficulties. It's It's been eighteen months and they haven't produced a product.
05:07.88
Carlos
Nope.
05:08.87
tim
And I think they're also making a flu vaccine.
05:11.84
demigod
Yeah, yeah, course.
05:14.11
ebox86
Interesting I mean I had only heard just random Twitter pieces about I don't know people not trusting some of their other products. What do they typically make what are some of their other products is it's it like that are art and Market. If anyone knows nvax.
05:34.42
tim
I I don't think there is anything on the market.
05:34.65
demigod
Yeah.
05:36.28
Matt
So oh they have a we're talking about nvax they have a ah a ah I think it's ah see I think it's Hepatitis vaccine coming next year or something I see inva hepatitis ah and vax.
05:38.57
ebox86
Um, yeah.
05:51.46
ebox86
Hepatitis vaccine interesting which 1
05:55.22
Matt
Has.
05:57.83
demigod
They've worked on Sars Mers Ebola Rsb The flu and Covid That's what their website says loose.
06:05.16
ebox86
Interesting. Yeah, but so that was a really exciting fun axilarating play for me I I got in I want to say I got filled right? It open at um, let's see. 1 ah, what did a drill at I think I was filled at 22 and I got 26 calls and so I mean it mooned up to I think 1 forty 3 1 forty four I mean these were like twenty dollars in the money you know these these calls so it was a amazing epic play. So I really get those I think the last time I had that was like boeing um in like February you know I mean boeing had just drilled last year and yeah.
07:00.66
demigod
What expiration do you play.
07:01.35
ebox86
But yeah, so that was fun. Well it really depends I mean for something like that where I knew it had I mean I knew it didn't seem like there was anything major like there wasn't any news that that it seemed like it should have. Drilled and vax to the degree to which it drilled so for me that seemed like ah a pretty opportune you know, scalp. So so for for that scenario or that kind of a setup like closer to expiration right? Just like I think actually for nvax the closest I could play was like. And this was like earlier this week so I think today october twenty second or it's october twenty fifth is the calls that I got so those were.
07:45.15
demigod
Yeah I played fucking weekly hundred and 65 dollar calls straight up fa eat fay and the yeah that works I picked enough for less than a Hundred each.
07:50.81
ebox86
Yeah, oh nice nice 1 65 I bet because I bet to I mean what did you pick him up at like wow that's yeah, amazing.
08:04.80
demigod
And they were like 4 hundred when I told him something like that.
08:09.28
ebox86
But in in general I mean like I've lost so much money just on closer to I mean like I think I've really learned my lesson on paper handing things but like what I really have learned a harder lesson on is buying too close expiration right? You know the intrinsic value of in the money Calls is so much better. And getting farther out. So I mean like that. That's really what I've kind of had as a kind of a general rule of thumb for me. But yeah, the the this.
08:35.42
demigod
Yeah I have a different trading style my my trading style is by in the morning sell it 11 you know, get out so it's it's always weekly for me because yeah, just percent gains is what I'm chasing.
08:44.90
ebox86
Yeah, right? Yeah right, right? right? Well that I mean honestly, that's a good strategy because you're gonna see most your movement in in the in the in the morning. And before eleven like you said is really when things got flatten out unless there's something that actually is happening you know like um so who who I got to ask who played dac that is something that has just been so I mean they talked so we got a little bit of a sandbc buzz today.
09:03.16
demigod
Yeah.
09:18.39
ebox86
Ah, they talked about it. They talked about it several times and so they're like is this is this is this the trump pump is this a meme stock. You know like Kramer loves to talk about on Squackbox how the memes stocks you know they had a little bit of a meme energy today after it. It got halted like 4 times. But did anyone play d-wac.
09:38.68
demigod
I didn't I I contact today off today.
09:42.68
ebox86
Ah, at a Pepot D W Tim Carlo E wack.
09:50.18
Matt
Dx No no I can't I can't buy a Trump stock.
09:51.52
DW
I Had some shares that I got after hours yesterday and I sold it for profit at pre-market this morning, but this is before it got that crazy pump after after the open.
09:52.51
demigod
Tra.
09:57.56
ebox86
Nice it halted Well if you bought at the end you still um, would have um, gotten a pretty nice return right? So yeah.
10:10.39
DW
Um, yeah, it was all right. Good lunch money for today.
10:17.48
ebox86
Um, but I mean my thing was I sold for profit I mean like I think I bought a 38 and I sold it like I wish I would have sold it like if they let me at like 1 forty or 1 sixty it went up to like 1 seventy 2 and it got halted but like no I think I sold and I was I thought I was lucky. Because I thought I would drill like even further. But I think I sold like 1 zero seven. So I mean bought a 38 easy seventy dollars like you said lunch money you know so so I was happy but but who knows I mean this is something that you know if it's going to do a game stop style. You know, just pump squeeze over the next coming couple weeks. It might just be worth it. Just say hey I mean just go all in whatever buy like a shit ton of shares and see if it you know pumps from here but who who plates.
11:03.17
demigod
Yeah, if I had heard about that you know Yesterday I'm might have gotten in on it. But yeah, by the time by the time I always hit to it. It's it did not seem appealing.
11:15.15
ebox86
Yeah I mean today and I mean after the like 5 halts and you know, ah that just killed all the energy is just I don't know the momentum on it but who played spy this is Spy is another interesting story I want to talk about a little bit.
11:30.89
DW
So I tried to buy the dip today. But then I kept dipping so I cut my call for a loss and then ended up you know pumping like an hour after I sold.
11:32.78
ebox86
Um.
11:34.68
demigod
How far.
11:43.76
ebox86
That's awesome I mean all time highs for for spy because I don't know we hit four fifty before pre the correction right? and and so we kind of flirted with that and we didn't hit four fifty. What do we hit today. 58 something like that for fifty 2
11:49.75
DW
Um, yeah.
11:59.13
demigod
Four fifty four 61 yeah
12:00.94
ebox86
Um, nice. Wow so that is that is crazy. It's funny so I have some throw on my throwaway robinhood I have some 5 hundreds for January and I'll get like a little notification and push notification your your spy 500 and five twenty s are up twenty percent and it's like wow. Spy must be really really pumping today. But yeah, so.
12:22.97
demigod
And I've used robinhood in so long I I haven't even seen 1 of those notifications.
12:28.18
ebox86
Has anyone um, speaking of Robin hood. That's a good pivot has anyone played hood since they I haven't really been watching them I think it's it's been well at least today.
12:36.67
demigod
They yeah, they kind of drill today right.
12:46.91
ebox86
But I don't know let's see here. Does anyone play them on the reg.
12:48.47
demigod
And there down four percent that a.
12:59.10
DW
That na's pretty shitty company.
12:59.81
demigod
Hell no I'm not That's when that shit I mean I would love to short them. But like I tend to only play to the upside. So.
13:01.13
ebox86
Yeah I mean it's you know I don't think.
13:12.20
ebox86
Um, what about the the jpal we had that jal speech today. So did he did he measure mention the treasury yields on the tenure. So I know that was 1 of the.
13:26.40
DW
Um, I mean you just keep saying you won't raise rates until like 2024 which is the usual bush that he says from his script. But um, they did say that he's not allowed to trade stocks anymore.
13:30.86
ebox86
No, right.
13:32.57
tim
Um I think.
13:40.49
tim
Um I think he said inflation. Oh sorry.
13:41.00
ebox86
He specifically oh no, no him was the whole board right? didn't I thought he was he might have been excluded from that but I because I knew the board had some. There was some board member. There was like a He's also interesting.
13:43.14
DW
Um, anyone that's like higher up in the fed I guess.
13:53.19
DW
Um, no, he's also included now.
13:56.46
demigod
Is that a new thing that just seemed that seems like common sense. But.
13:58.66
ebox86
Tim that yeah well it was some it was what was it Munger or I know who who was on the 1 of the board fed board chairmen like but or the board members like that it was in some like like.
13:59.31
DW
Um, exactly I'm surprised it took with 1
14:18.59
ebox86
Not a scheme but he he had like bought and sold like so several questionable like trades and it was like is this legal and someone someone raised the issue and then now we're here you know where where it's actually not not allowed now. But yeah, it should should have never been a thing but.
14:32.65
Carlos
It was actually 2 of them. It was 2 of the fed board members 1 of them I think was was kaplan I believe and both of them actually retired early and they sold the top. So yeah, that was the story the sold it in september.
14:44.65
ebox86
Wow, that's.
14:50.40
Carlos
Remember when the September headline hit and they said that these stood they're now selling out of goodwill so technically that goodwill was top of the market and that's when this all yeah and then and then and and then both of them retire retire early. So yeah.
14:58.72
ebox86
Um, that's a ridiculous.
15:05.46
tim
I Think those guys will worth like an hundred million dollars.
15:08.20
ebox86
They're like oh well and and I think 1 of them was already in the banking industry prior to their fed tenure right? So I mean you know they already.
15:16.31
tim
Um I think Powell was as well in the banking industry.
15:25.55
ebox86
I'm I don't doubt that what what who was he with was he with like I don't know what who company he was with oh interesting. Um.
15:31.66
tim
If I'm not wrong I think it was carlyle group. Yeah.
15:42.47
ebox86
But yeah, yeah, that that is something that is kind of crazy that it's not really like like something that that was in the books for a long time I mean really house members you hear about you know pelosi or some of these senators. You know how how you know how they trade around. And and you know who was it the um aid to cruise or maybe cruise himself or there was some other house member senator buying and selling commodities after the drill. So some someone sold something a shit ton of layer. No Bought bought a shits on a Moderna I want to say like right excuse me right before the like you know Covid like drill march twenty third lows I mean yeah, it's it's it's amazing. How stuff like that isn't already on the books. But.
16:33.30
tim
That's crazy.
16:34.70
ebox86
Yeah I played a little bit of tesla Today I think that demi did you say you played tesla today.
16:42.78
demigod
I played tesla what like yesterday or Wednesday when it was mooning. Ah, but yeah, again it if you look at the chart it totally exactly fits my trading style where it's you know by early wait for the moon.
17:00.89
ebox86
Well, you're your kind of sounds like what you're describing is like what some of these people call a momentum trader right? So like if you know you're just kind of catching the tail tailwinds and and kind of going with it as as the volume is there and you know it's got a like a direct direction.
17:01.63
demigod
Get out. Ah.
17:07.80
demigod
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
17:19.67
demigod
Yeah I saw that it was it was setting up for a move overall time high and then I saw that that 1 green candle and just kind of went all in and it it super super paid off I didn't play today here to see it wasn't.
17:20.30
ebox86
Strong direction. Um.
17:34.91
ebox86
Yeah, it was definitely sketchy it open so I I played it in morning and I was a little uneasy because I mean you know the no I think I got the nine fifteen call. It was it was ah it was like twelve dollars and I'm like okay I mean.
17:38.56
demigod
It was a little bit sketchy it opened but.
17:54.30
ebox86
You know this is ah this is an expensive call. You know I wish I was I wish I had gotten something like a nine hundred call yesterday you know, but you know, um, but so anyway there was a lot of you know there was a lot of um, it was it was not the cheapest. Ah.
18:00.41
demigod
Yeah.
18:12.00
ebox86
And so it it was it definitely kind of because it flirted with 900 and then we had that big pump up from like I think we opened like 98 seven and then we had the big pump over over nine and I think it was pretty strong after that but he was out I was there. There were a couple times there was a little tepid for sure. But yeah, tesla we've talked about many times many times on on the pod here. But it's always a.
18:35.85
demigod
I Love turning Tesla That's that's just it's my my bread and butter. That's my go Tos dot. It's it's I vibe with me. Yeah.
18:43.96
ebox86
It's great for your training topic. Well, it's great for your training style I mean and I mean last year I mean if you if you heard some of the stories on our on our some of our episodes last year I've been such a notorious tesla boo bull. The problem with me is ah you know selling. So I mean you, you don't know when you when you have some of these like epic moons that you do like like like kind of what we saw today a little bit but like yesterday you don't know if that's going to run out of gas Midday or and so i'm. I get into this phase where I think it's going to be a day like yesterday every time right? and so you're thinking you're holding on you're thinking. Okay I'm just a little bit holder I hold on you're just a little bit longer I'm not goingnna sell I'm not gonna sell so I Diamond hands it until it's like nothing and I've done that several times.
19:30.72
demigod
So so Tesla tesla for me the reason I love trading it so much is because it fits my pattern so perfectly. It'll always it moons and it then it comes back down a little bit and like yesterday. The perfect example.
19:35.32
Matt
Fish.
19:50.43
demigod
And it kind of hangs out in like the you know the top first fibonacci support and then it takes a direction after that and as soon as it breaks down below the last candle or above the the high of the run. Ah, that's when I decide whether whether or not to sell. And I've lost a lot of money you know you know ah Diamond handsing it which I know I should not do should never ever do it? Um, but for the most part I I it's it's really predictable when it goes up and then.
20:12.35
ebox86
Right.
20:29.30
demigod
Fix the direction and then you know that that's when I sell or or stay in and usually usually I'm watching fibonace resistances and and moving averages I the the nine nine Twenty fifty hundred moving averages.
20:32.97
ebox86
Right? so.
20:47.96
demigod
They were for me.
20:48.60
ebox86
Um, so speaking of fib charts and I love that bot that gives me such confidence when I'll do like I think the chart command is like chart fib or fib chart. But so you know, kind of looking at those you can see you know what they're I guess technical. Like breakout levels are right or support levels. Um, so people kind of pivoting to you for a second so does do you use some of what what do you use as 1 of your indicators for for your charting just ah.
21:07.70
demigod
Yeah.
21:21.10
Matt
The only thing I use for my charts are price volume some Fib retracements.
21:36.56
Matt
And that's it.
21:37.65
demigod
Don't you don't you trade lines like like horizontals and diagonals.
21:41.83
Matt
Yes, that is that is price.
21:44.33
demigod
That Okay, fair enough.
21:48.13
ebox86
But that seems to be working I mean seems like it's a pretty simple formula and there's no secret sauce. Oh.
21:52.81
Matt
Well you see the chemical you got to add the chemical X all right? and that is macro and fundamental analysis so you got to understand where rotations are happening into which stocks you want to play.
21:57.30
demigod
So.
22:11.20
Matt
And you want to look for strong Momentum plays you want to be playing stuff typically that is with within 10 to five percent of their their alltime highs or at their all-time highs in consolidating a little bit so like I'm always I'm always on. Watching for continuation and stuff.
22:31.20
demigod
Do you have scanners or do you do you? just? ah, look with your eyes.
22:38.10
Matt
I do have scanners but I also do go on to Finvis and I'll just look at a shit and charts over like an hour I do not I don't.
22:48.52
ebox86
Do you pay for Fin Viz I was gonna say because there is a paid and I think they have scanners too or screeners I guess um on on on the website. But.
23:02.89
Matt
So here's a lot of okay so some of the stocks I played this week costco and yeah Costco made a huge run this week
23:15.72
ebox86
Costco.
23:20.88
Matt
I alerted about it. Um, on Monday yeah, on Monday the breakout happened on Monday I can show what.
23:26.53
ebox86
You can chill. You can show your thing by the way I don't care you can chill your thing your you know.
23:35.53
demigod
People charts Premium Service sign up now on Patreon Dot Com Slash and.
23:37.83
ebox86
Ah, yeah, that's what I wanted you? yeah shill. Yes, yes, no no, you know that'll be the afterparty I'll be showing something. Yeah, um.
23:38.77
Matt
Oh shell shell Shell Shell Shell I Thought you said show else I was trying to share my screen in somehow because I'm looking at my discord. No I don't want to.
23:48.87
demigod
Ah, this product podcast is brought to you by.
23:55.67
Matt
I don't I don't want to showll because it's gonna it's gonna reach the masses because it works. It's gonna be amazing I'm gonna I'm gonna turn into a conglomerate.
24:01.37
ebox86
Oh so you want to keep it right? All that twenty dollars you're taken from you.
24:08.98
Matt
Yes, we'll see eventually um, due to inflation prices will have to rise as popularity increases. You know some is some.
24:15.27
demigod
And thinking.
24:16.29
ebox86
Oh who else is a who else is a Pepo Subscriber D W you describe people? Oh well, he's supposedly on dot Com He's supposedly lurking.
24:22.49
demigod
Subscribe.
24:25.33
Matt
I don't I don't think he I don't even know who d w is I well I have I have like I have like 50 subscribers around there. No no.
24:26.95
demigod
Ah, this is.
24:35.79
ebox86
Ah, Tim Timmy is he a our little boy Oh carlo are you a pepo. Nice nice.
24:37.75
tim
And I'm going to join next year
24:43.29
Matt
But but like every morning I'd post I think he is I I post at least 3 setups every morning right? And okay Carlos you've been in here does it does it work.
24:44.52
Carlos
I am yo I am yeah.
24:53.93
Carlos
Man I'm so sad about ebay I mean for for first like because lately I have been lazy and I would not been trading like the past I would say how many weeks 2 and a half weeks I have not traded basically at all before that I was and then I lost to.
25:07.23
demigod
Ah.
25:13.67
Carlos
Money on Moderna and but I lost a lot so I was like you know what? I'm gonna chill and after that's got lazy and I haven't traded yet I'm gonna get backhead. But yeah, hit it. But it yes hi here's a think dog.
25:22.30
demigod
Bro He's trying to get a testimonial out here just just just just say it works say it's great. Yeah.
25:26.14
Matt
No, no, no, no, no, don't I don't want him say that I don't want him say because because we we all got screwed up Mada that.
25:32.32
Carlos
No, here's the thing it it has worked for me. But what happened what? like the reason why I stopp was because on murder I I went on I went big basically and I placed all my money that I had made like in the past 3 weeks on on it and then guess what happened? yeah it.
25:44.18
Matt
Ah, shit a no.
25:49.37
Carlos
Just events out and I was like you know what? and then I have the same habit as you mentioned of like hope like holding things and then keep adding to it just like make myself right? like always gonna go up. You know what? nice for me I do that all the time I do that I need to learn I do that all the time.
25:59.27
Matt
Oh yeah, yeah, don't don't do that. Don't do that? Yeah yeah, we'll see I cut I thought Airbn media right away when it wasn't working you got to cut you got to cut your bad trades fast and just with the good stuff for so okay, well he isn't traded much.
26:07.70
Carlos
So yeah, that and yeah.
26:11.95
demigod
So.
26:18.28
Matt
But he can vouch that if you're looking in my chart room pretty much everything is breaking out or I'm posting an update about the breakout like my my charts are ah.
26:27.62
Carlos
Yeah, like like right now I was sad about ebay bro like I was I was going to buy it and then by then then I was like you know what? I'm just I don't care and then I just didn't do it and then and then today I wake up and I and I lirk and like okay and it keeps going up. It was a five percent day and and and then he goes.
26:36.50
Matt
That.
26:47.28
Carlos
Calls were 2 grand each another like thirty Grand I was like bro come on. Oh yeah, but did you you sold? Ah, but did yourself.
26:48.88
Matt
Oh dude they touched they went. They went all the way to Ninety k if I were to held I saw I sold way way below that? yeah.
27:00.14
Carlos
Still where that was some was a good play.
27:01.24
demigod
Ah dot.
27:03.91
Matt
I mean that's four 500 percent gain overnight.
27:06.70
Carlos
Exactly but then at the same time that that was f Ds though right? it was like like like me like yeah I would like like for rhythm when it comes to f Ds I was like too scared to play those and I probably like.
27:12.85
Matt
Yeah.
27:24.44
Carlos
Even if I had played it I would probably go like 500 books on it. You know.
27:26.18
Matt
Yeah, well, you shouldn't really play see what's hard about trading is the mentality. Ah when it comes to your your portfolio size and how you play the Market. So First of all. You know you have under under under 10000 I feel like people I think realistically once you're under like 5000 the way you think about your money becomes more desperate.
27:46.69
Carlos
Under twenty under 25 yeah
27:56.41
Carlos
Um.
28:02.62
Matt
So you keep trying to force things and you're a lot more careless with your money because it's not all that much But if you had like like ten thousand or more you'd be trying to make sure every trade was like amazing basically basically it's like you do the same. You can do the same trades you do at like. 25 grand and up with 500 dollars right? You just can't you just can't day trade four days in a row. Um, but but yeah.
28:27.19
ebox86
Well, you came with a cash account. But.
28:30.69
demigod
My in our release.
28:32.73
tim
I will say people took me from 2 k to Forty K this is when I was in outcast it Mom cleveland cliffs if yeah.
28:37.66
ebox86
And what did you do with it. Oh wait you had forty K in outcast.
28:37.77
demigod
All right? damn.
28:52.38
tim
Yes, is to it is to to may to me.
28:52.79
ebox86
Yeah, it's timmy 10 a.
28:53.30
Matt
Who's ah that Tim there has to be Tim. What was I trying to see there kinds too too too high. Basically basically you you make you make if you're making a hundred percent gain on plays. Um, it doesn't matter what you what you start out with right.
29:00.47
ebox86
The mentality five these five 25
29:03.21
tim
Oh my God I bad.
29:15.67
Matt
You If as long as you're consistent. You're just gonna like I don't know what I'm trying to say I don't know I'm trying to say at all I feel like people are more careless with their book for Lawyeros the less money they have.
29:19.91
demigod
Well, yeah I think I think I get weird. Yeah and the way I I get around that the way I I reconcile my my habits is I keep a couple different accounts where you know like like my td ameritrade has like less than five grand in it. And that's just my my gambling account I'll do fucking whatever on that and it's okay because it's it's there are small trades. You know it's kind of like learning almost but with you know you have to learn to graduate.
29:58.30
ebox86
What what's your what's your main brokerage like what do he use her Taty works Oh wee bull. Oh interesting hu.
29:59.65
demigod
Out of that and and ah we will actually yeah no I Just really love their interface there. Their executions are trash but ah I.
30:08.75
tim
Um, what kind of trades Oh what kind of trades do you make with your gambling account.
30:17.40
demigod
I haven't done a whole lot recently I actually to take a lot money out of it because I've been unemployed. But ah.
30:21.84
Matt
Um, you know what I would do if I had five k and I was trying to like grow it I would take 3 plays and but 16 thirty in each of them right? All you got it.
30:37.63
demigod
Well betting a hundred percent of your stack is never you know.
30:41.50
Matt
That's all you gotta do? That's all you gotta do.
30:43.19
ebox86
Sometimes you got to play the field though and you got to take a figure gamble.
30:46.69
Matt
Well you put okay put 16 thirty in each of these 3 plays now they have to be pepo charts play real system will not work all right of what's gonna good war you now? Um, and then you just put like a twenty percent stop loss in each. But here's the thing right.
30:52.39
demigod
Nice.
30:53.61
ebox86
I Can so.
30:54.23
tim
And.
31:05.96
Matt
Ah, guarantee unless we like somehow correct without any divergent showing if there's divergent showing on the indices I wouldn't be trying this obviously but good marketing conditions permitting 1 of these places is get a print. Most likely 2 of them are going to be printing at least and then no no, you won't no no, you don't no you don't because you have twenty percent stop losses right? on all of them and if just 1 prints. It's going to print by print I mean 1 hundred percent or more.
31:25.79
demigod
Well, yeah, but you need 3 of them to print to come out on top. Not fair enough.
31:44.28
Matt
Right? So you're not going to lose more than 2000 on the other 2 plays. But if 1 play prints 1 hundred percent that's 2000 so they all 3 have to fail for you to get fucked but but.
31:58.98
demigod
Earth.
32:03.10
Matt
Strategy will work every single week in the people chart term. It's unlimited money. It's a hack all right? I'm basically it's your own pal and I can I can tell you where the money is gonna come from that's it's just just how it works.
32:04.29
Carlos
Yeah.
32:17.26
ebox86
So I guess I should just back up for a second for our listeners as if it isn't abundantly clear at this point but people runs a premium charting service that he has a group of how many people patrons. Yeah fifty.
32:33.22
Matt
Um, it's a mary bunch of around 5050 people Fifty yeah yeah, wait actually I don't know server settings roles.
32:37.13
ebox86
Thirty Twenty fifty fifty who wow um, that you care for each person by name I'm sure. Um. But no, so yeah I just wanted to clear that up. So if people listening are in the audience are like what is he talking about who is people so yeah, but so yeah, no I mean yes yeah I should yeah around the forty five minute mark we're going to have a people paid ad here. No, but.
33:01.26
tim
He is also sponsoring this podcast. He.
33:04.26
Matt
Um, 50 3
33:12.81
ebox86
I Yeah I think it's it's It's pretty cool though but just want to make that clear.
33:16.13
Matt
I Just want everyone I'll just want I'm not trying to show my service but I just want everyone to to make money and I I'm looking through my chart room right now and like it's like everything moons.
33:31.91
ebox86
Um, and you didn't recommend D Wag That's a box play. So yeah, you got to play that's up. That's actually a box play. So that's my a.
33:32.77
Matt
I Can't find anything that doesn't moon I I Just well you don't have to play D wac you have to play dacc for to moon.
33:44.92
Matt
Um, it's I might I mean.
33:50.40
ebox86
Sharding service and we called that out in box room. So.
33:53.92
Matt
It's actually you wouldn't expect like just strong lines to work as well as this does.
34:01.61
ebox86
I Like the cops. What do the cops represent.
34:03.96
Matt
The cups just represent um contraction expansion of price you know oscillation um sellers and buyers. It's It's a you know it's a cup you know.
34:09.79
ebox86
Consolidation. Oh um.
34:23.60
Matt
Hey okay, so hold on hold on dw you ah you saw that pinterest news right? this week I think yes, yes so I posted a pinch chartt.
34:26.36
DW
Yo.
34:30.92
ebox86
Oh pins This is a great topic. Yeah.
34:31.96
DW
Ah, for Paypal right? yeah.
34:41.69
Matt
On the nineteenth and then we got the pins news. Well the day after that I posted a match chart and then we got the google match. News like an hour later isn't it crazy.
35:03.92
DW
Um, it is crazy.
35:04.44
ebox86
Yeah, you don't You're not a subscriber are you D W see there. You go.
35:10.17
DW
Um, no, but I'm considering it now loki.
35:14.21
Matt
Isn't it like I'm insider treating. It's.
35:18.29
ebox86
Um, so just a quick pivot I think tim raised this about Amazon and I think we can talk about Amazon a lot. so so I heard and I'm trying to think if this was this week or if I'm getting my wheats confused with last week but they had earnings recently right? or or was this.
35:18.46
DW
Um, son enough.
35:37.21
Matt
No, no, they mooned because um, all Amazon's really cool company and um.
35:37.28
ebox86
They mooned because of something.
35:49.25
ebox86
It was it was something I mean I full disclosure I worked for the company so I should know this but ah I don't recall.
35:50.56
Matt
These it was something to do with um I feel like it was gaming or streaming or media related um hold 1
36:02.60
ebox86
Some yeah some announcement or I don't know but wasn't a hardware event a hardware event happened in Mid -september so we always have ah like the devices division always has like a hardware event this year because we want to be Apple I guess we're like fake apple.
36:14.22
tim
Um I guess maybe they're tvs.
36:14.67
Matt
Amazon Amazon Market this.
36:18.39
ebox86
The tv did did release the ah with the alexa. It was like the really thin basil um tv but yeah, so anyway, long story short. We mooned hard because of something and we went from like I want to say what was it like 30 3 30 to like. 30 four hundred or maybe it was even 3500 and so anyway I heard several of these plays that people were calling out amazon and if you had gotten in I think it was like if you had gotten in on the 3400 call. It was like seventy dollars and it was like I mean. Yeah I think if you would have gotten that it would if you got a lot of them. Someone was saying that Henry paulson or 1 of the guys on dot com he was saying like you would have had like 1 point five million dollars from 1 of those plays I mean it was just like yeah I mean just a very.
37:04.60
DW
Polish.
37:10.19
Matt
Oh it was last Friday the Amazon Market news. So what was well so what was the right hold on.
37:14.19
ebox86
Last? okay. Who was I talking to.
37:26.90
ebox86
Yeah henry paulson in the server dot com. He mentioned again. The des are a little fuzzy but it was something like to the effect of like the 34 hundred call if you had gotten it. It was like 70 bucks. And I mean you know if you had gotten just a bunch of those. It was just like a really high yield. It was like a like a five hundred percent play but did it wouldnt happen to play at last Friday I know it's been.
38:06.60
Matt
Wait is demi God Shroom god.
38:08.97
ebox86
No different different guy. Yeah, that.
38:09.10
demigod
Good now now different people and.
38:20.71
ebox86
But didn't anyone happen to play. Um, yeah, the the the good thing is is I'll I'll be able to edit all this later. So.
38:22.27
demigod
So dead air edit that out her.
38:38.55
Matt
I'll do it live fuck it I'll do it.
38:39.10
ebox86
Well I I try to keep the audio as clean as possible because it makes it less work for me later because now I'm gonna have to edit all this out. but it's fine um but yeah so what is it since august of last year
38:46.34
demigod
Center.
38:47.92
tim
Um, how long have you been doing the podcast. How long have you been doing the podcast. Oh you're pretty good at it.
38:56.20
Matt
Damn, he's great.
38:58.73
Carlos
Um, yeah.
38:59.80
ebox86
Um, so so anyway, so Amazon this week so anyone play it this week
39:07.39
demigod
I looked at it Amazon not now not usually on my list. Yeah.
39:09.55
Matt
Out.
39:13.14
ebox86
They're they're expensive aren't to calls I mean everything's expensive right? Did you actually play it though.
39:13.97
Matt
It was it. It was in the people room it is in the people room. Um, yeah, it was actually literally the only chart that broke out and then fell back under support Actually now I think about it I'm going to highlight that actually in the people room. I'm gonna make a post right now. I don't say this very often but 1 of my charts didn't outward.
39:42.20
ebox86
And Tim so pltr. So this is a name which you know we've had on the pod for a long time. We've talked about it at length but I haven't really heard much about it or played it recently have you have you played it? Ah yeah.
39:54.85
tim
I I just been looking at the news I think Nato is gonna have like a billion dollar contract. But it's not really too pal yet. But that's what people are thinking about.
39:57.61
Matt
Oh.
40:02.92
ebox86
Wow.
40:09.39
Matt
Tam it.
40:14.92
ebox86
Well I um I think you know Pal has great potential I mean they are in some very interesting space right? now you know, um, you know the days of I because I you know last year when we talked about palant you know was. You know when they first ipoed or spaked or however they entered the market but um, it was a directless thing. So yeah, but they came in at like I think I bought when pltr like.
40:38.54
Matt
Direct lister.
40:46.29
Matt
It's twelve dollars.
40:47.58
ebox86
It was twelve dollars and then it drilled to nine and then it's it. It's stay and I felt so fucked I was like I'm getting fucked I mean that that was literally huh Well ah, feeling fucked and then I fucked myself.
40:54.59
Matt
Feeling fuck feeling fucked.
41:03.30
ebox86
Because then I think I sold it like it. It drilled I think it touched 7 96 something like that and so then it mooned up to like nine eleven flirted with nine fifty something like that and I'm like oh good I get to save some of my money I think it might have touched 10 and I sold I was like fuck I caught my cut my losses I thought didn't know that it would have I mean I had hundreds of shares I mean hundreds I could have been writing and selling you know causes that was the plan to wheel pltr to buy a shitton and wheel it. But. Paper hands that big time and then it went to so to twelve and then a 13 then a 14 and in a seventeen and then I think you know it was just before line. It was like 21 and it was just it was really hard. Ah I yeah I mean it was so hard I mean I had hundreds hundreds of shares.
41:46.28
tim
The home of.
41:46.92
demigod
And then it was forty five.
41:47.68
Matt
That'squeens to forty.
41:54.62
Matt
That's what she said.
41:56.44
ebox86
So I I don't know that that was said it's hard to talk about pilcr for me just because of like I don't know just that. But yeah, no I mean it's a great company I think they? um, they're in a lot of interesting spaces. So um.
41:57.66
tim
And.
42:07.91
tim
Okay, back to people charts Advertisement Can you tell us more about what people charts does.
42:14.47
Matt
Um, I actually don't want to show people charts I wanted to um ah I wanted to show you my chart So I can't figure out how to show you my screen.
42:14.53
ebox86
Oh my God be but charts ever. He's been void coy about charting in general haven't you ah you you can't you can't show anything is anybody because it's a.
42:31.52
demigod
Your people do you know how to have the fuck up people a fucking podcast works.
42:32.74
Matt
Oh oh shit I was thinking it was like a Youtube that never mindd to run right? Well Anyways, you can see the chart. You can see the charty box the appeal to your chart. It's right there. It's looking good.
42:33.35
ebox86
Radio show.
42:41.16
ebox86
It's a my God thing like a radio show or here she okay, let me open it on discourse see you have to like explain what we're doing to the audience. Um.
42:53.87
Matt
Beam it to me.
42:57.27
ebox86
So it's a triangle and it shows what is this showing in pltr bullish wedge is that what that is and and so it looks like it's going to moon to 27 so you're saying p ltr calls.
43:01.19
Matt
It's a nice train. Nope It's an ascending triangle.
43:15.92
ebox86
And smanty heard pltr to 2 dollars so he has puts.
43:18.40
Matt
Fifty.
43:18.42
Carlos
Ah.
43:19.20
tim
H.
43:22.34
ebox86
So so.
43:23.26
demigod
I think I think he misheard I think he meant ah p l t r fifty dollar calls are going in 2 dollars.
43:23.58
Matt
Ah, but.
43:30.20
ebox86
Ah, oh I see I mean yeah, that would be a great. A great thing.
43:32.20
tim
Um I was actually thinking about but getting the leaps this.
43:40.67
Matt
I think it's better to get leaps on what's the really good charts I had to oh you know what? C r m we're watching c r m cvs in the next week
43:40.80
demigod
I like I like what they are.
43:42.76
tim
It seem pretty cheap.
43:54.23
ebox86
Crm's great. Cbs has been make I've heard that several times today what is with cbs is it just earnings.
43:59.71
Matt
And in a B and B no Cbs is breaking out of a large bull flag consolidation on the weekly chart.
44:07.56
ebox86
Oh interesting. Okay, um, and what was the third one Sorry yeah oh affirm, yeah well they had the.
44:15.54
Matt
So c r m cvs oh and a f r m affirm next week has another. Ah oh and overstock in overstock os t k.
44:25.30
ebox86
Amazon News right.
44:32.62
Matt
Because that just retested support today.
44:36.97
tim
Oh apparently wowsers is in the discord in in our podcast.
44:46.16
Matt
Niceness.
44:47.11
tim
D w.
44:48.40
demigod
Wowzers you mean the fucking 16 year old is that is that D w.
44:52.40
tim
I Think so.
44:55.80
ebox86
Wait What is this.
44:58.18
tim
Um I think Dw is wilders.
45:01.62
ebox86
Ah, no, he's in his here as gw it just like if you at the W Ah where the heck.
45:07.49
demigod
Yeah, now he's been dogging.
45:09.28
tim
Okay.
45:11.85
Matt
O.
45:12.61
DW
I'm I'm just listening I'm just listening.
45:12.81
ebox86
Um, was it. Oh um, right? So I think we can pivot to final trades. Ah yeah.
45:30.20
Matt
We talk.
45:30.12
ebox86
So I will just ah, kind of go over my week so I think I exited everything I didn't swing anything for the weekend I'm kind of bummed I don't know I felt really good though because I've been I've been making a lot of money. And I've been feeling good and I've learned a several lessons I'm not going to over tradede and I'm not going to revenge trade and so I've been I've been kind of learning to close and put the market put the phone down kind of like you were saying toy god after 11 am because everything don't make their move. You know after that. Everything's just very flat after that. So.
46:07.90
demigod
There's no money to be made of an end.
46:07.58
ebox86
So and it's so true you know and and if there is it's going to be power hour. It's going to be 3 58 you know, getting something last minute to swing right? so so so anyway this week was pretty exciting for me I had the nvax moon I bought calls. What was that tuesday.
46:16.32
demigod
Yeah.
46:27.26
ebox86
Wednesday the week's been a blur. But anyway nvax was was awesome d wax was was stressful and heart palpitating and then also awesome I played tesla this week I play a little bit of spy I got kind of fucked on spiyke because spies went really weird. It's I mean we're at all time highves. But then it kind of just like stalled and then the volume just dropped it. Oh so no.
46:47.21
Matt
Well, you got you get sorry sorry you get to realize we've had 7 7 green days in a row.
46:55.10
ebox86
They said that was the they were saying that yes on csc they were commenting that this morning that was what's made me a little kind of I don't know. Definitely it added to my stress level for for being in Tesla today because I thought at any moment we would just drill you know like mega and.
47:10.17
Matt
Well, we just got to have we got to have some consolidation before we go higher. That's that's all it is.
47:14.88
ebox86
Release some pressure you have to yeah exactly? Yeah, so but that's really was that that was really my my big plays for this week it's mainly been spy and in vax. And video again I didn't play pins I was wanting to play plans. Oh and someone called this out s a l m um, this is I guess it's another trump links back salam salem media group. So and anyway s a m. It's four dollars now.
47:50.36
tim
Um I think funware went up a lot off Trump news. Yeah.
47:52.59
ebox86
And it would yeah, there's been a lot of Trump's backs out there that have kind of but so anyway that that was me this this week I again didn't swing anything. Um, yeah, ah people.
48:08.13
Matt
Um, let's see I played neo made a lot of money on that I think other people made money on neo 2 was that oh that was last friday.
48:28.22
Matt
Wait what are we talking about trades we made this week
48:31.25
ebox86
Ah, yeah, just just anything that you so were in this week maybe traded today anything you're swinging and anything that were bigger comes comes to mind.
48:38.90
Matt
Well I trade it I traded a lot. Um I trade mostly breakouts and take profits on green days. But ah, you know next week I'm looking looking at cvs. and c r m and cyber that's cyber art there at all time high is probably gonna go higher.
48:58.10
ebox86
Nice.
49:09.89
ebox86
Cyber what is the ticker. Oh okay, um, cool any others ah affirm, that's a good 1
49:10.25
Matt
C Y B r.
49:19.35
Matt
O N a F R m.
49:25.44
ebox86
Cool. Awesome D w.
49:26.53
DW
I I'm still swinging Paypal and Disney Paypal because it took a dip when they announced that it would be rumored to purchase Pinterest Um, and I got Disney too because I got downgraded So I hope I thought it be like a good dip by that we'll see.
49:42.22
ebox86
They postponed several movies and are they still closing the parks or the parks open or okay, there was There was some word or news about the parks I don't know something about the parks I remember hearing.
49:48.17
DW
um um I know the ones in Callie in Florida are still open.
49:51.64
Carlos
Think they're all open. Yes.
50:00.83
ebox86
Maybe this was in covid p like Delta maybe this is a delta story but interesting. Yeah I think they drilled recently because of the the movie delays they they postponed a couple but cool. Ah, that's.
50:14.16
Matt
Wait Dimi Debi is shrum god.
50:18.21
demigod
Oh my God Yes, yes, my yes who we we were. We were making a funny. Yeah I'm I'm shroom God because I am a drug dealer.
50:20.92
tim
This isn't.
50:24.91
Matt
But. Ah, david.
50:31.10
ebox86
Demi.
50:38.10
demigod
Anyway, um, my final trades I I'm really like an amd. It's I haven't heard much about it. But you know it's going up and it looks like it's testing that one twenty level again which I think I think. Would be all time highs for them right? Yeah yeah, the one twenty market is where they're you know, trying to push through and I think amd next week or so it's going to be interesting um that an excel f xlf has been a longtime ah trade for me. Ah I've been you know looking at them for a while I I actually told my dad about excelf back like a year ago he made a bunch of money on it. Um, but also like the the financial sector is kind of popping off again. And yeah, again. Another good interesting trade for the next week
51:37.89
ebox86
Awesome! Very cool carlos.
51:45.39
Carlos
I've just been selling covered calls on palant and and was that in lucid motors. That's all I've been doing and I being yep and and I've been buying the dip on ah Etherium mostly yeah.
51:50.20
ebox86
Ah, lucid nice.
51:58.39
ebox86
Ah, eth very nice I know a nihilist of of the server of dot com. He's been a big eth buyer as well. Nice.
52:05.50
Carlos
Yeah I I've grabbed a few now I moved most of my money from the stock market to italian right now. So I'm cruising on that just selling covered calls and like stocks that I have more than hundred shares off is doing that.
52:20.81
ebox86
That's awesome. Any particularly 1 that you've sold more of recently. Oh.
52:21.67
Carlos
And and ah palin I did and then I mean did they expired I believe like last week and this week the prize action was bad so I just didn't sell anything but like coming back to pal I actually had 250 shares that I had bought. At 12 bucks each and I held him through 45 and I and I wrote it back down to here I didn't sell anything I don't know why? Yeah yeah.
52:48.77
ebox86
Yeah, that's that's rough, um, let's see all right Cool tim.
53:02.64
tim
I ah I traded tesla calls but that was pretty much all I did I made good thirty percent on that someone gave me a play so I bought it. Ah I buy like in.
53:11.42
ebox86
Tesla calls. Do you actually play Tesla like for real and what it will was the play.
53:21.20
tim
8 forty call expiring in January twenty 2
53:24.61
ebox86
Someone gave you an eight forty call play and when did you buy this I must have been prohibitively.
53:28.11
tim
Ah, he actually told me to do something really dejan. But I chose to just play it more safe.
53:35.73
ebox86
I mean January I mean that must have been like a like a very expensive call.
53:41.15
tim
It was most of my account.
53:45.76
ebox86
Ah Wow. Okay, and did it pay out I mean did you? Oh wow. Yeah for sure Absolutely was that is that all you traded this way was Tesla or.
53:48.40
tim
Um, yeah I mean thirty percent's pretty good.
53:57.64
tim
Pretty much I did buy 20 shares of no vax at 2026
54:02.60
ebox86
Oh like did you play that dip ah this week or did you? Yeah yeah, quite yeah, calls was the calls was the game there. But I mean honestly people were saying puts puts I remember I was part of the.
54:08.10
tim
Yeah, but I wish I bought calls instead of shares and.
54:19.46
tim
If you think that.
54:21.75
ebox86
The chant puts it open right? It drills from here right? Ah, but but it obviously mooned from there. So I mean it could have gone either way play shares was the conservative say play. But but yeah calls calls 2020 so always hindinsight but hindsight's always 2020 but um, cool.
54:35.62
tim
Decision.
54:40.65
ebox86
Thanks guys I Think this was a great panel appreciate everyone coming and we'll see you guys. We'll see everyone again next time. So thanks.
54:48.49
demigod
Thanks for having me I had a great time.
54:51.00
tim
So thank you.
54:52.20
Carlos
Say Peace of.